Overheard at Hermès’ Madison Avenue: “You can’t buy any more Mini Kelly bags right now. I’m sorry. Your account is too Mini Kelly heavy.”
This isn’t your most recent shopping nightmare. It’s just one of several “new rules” that Hermès has pronounced upon its clientele over the past few months. From rumor to possibility to hard-and-fast in no time flat, these rules streamline customer expectations, although they also frustrate established clients by creating new and unanticipated (some might call them artificial) limits on those who have been playing by the old rules.
While most of these new rules are not yet established – and there will be some variation in how strictly they are applied, whether per boutique or per client – these are recent changes that you should be prepared to work with in the near future.
Why the Changes at Hermès for 2025?
To some extent, this has been enabled by corporate consolidation. Over the past 15 or so years, Hermès has been trying to bring all of its boutiques under the corporate banner. Previously, while most boutiques have been corporately owned, there have always been a few that were not.
This may have been due to a lack of corporate readiness to risk entry into a particular market or served as a basis for establishing local relationships; regardless, privately owned boutiques were a niche with their own benefits and drawbacks.
Privately owned boutiques were local in character and, therefore, more driven by (and responsive to) the local market; this was particularly noticeable when it came to purchasing decisions made at podium. Private boutiques were also technologically off the grid, with no corporate notice of individual client purchases; this could be a plus for those who could afford to carry the “pre-spend” at multiple boutiques.
However, private boutiques suffered unique drawbacks, including being less likely to receive special items (such as push offers and high-demand items), less reliable stock delivery, less clarity on management, and a closed technology system, which prevented a corporate-client relationship (the flip side of corporate never knowing what a client purchases also means that client’s pre-spend remains at zero).
Very few privately owned boutiques remain, enabling greater corporate control. This was a necessary prerequisite for the new rules so that they may be applied more consistently.

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The following New Rules have been confirmed to me to already be in somewhat widespread use (multiple instances at multiple boutiques in more than one country):
- New Rule: You Won’t Be Able To Buy More Of Your Favorite Style
hermes silky pop shop bag shopping bag in brown printed canvas and brown leather nightmare conversation above, Hermès plumes to discourage its clients from buying the same styles over and over. While we don’t yet know exactly how many is considered too many and within what time frame this purchasing limit will be applied, it’s probably a good idea to be ready to pick a different style if your SA requests it.
- New Rule: The Definition Of A “Quota Bag” Is Expanding
The term Quota Bag – and its attendant two-per-year purchasing limit – has previously been used to refer to Birkins and regular (Sellier/Retourne) Kellys, but not the various Kelly-based designs (like the Kelly Pochette, Elan, and Danse) or the Constance.
Now, it appears that some boutiques are applying the two-per-year limit to most iterations of Kelly and Constance bags, along with all Birkins.
Your Mileage May Vary
The following New Rules have been confirmed to me to have been applied to some clients but are not yet widespread:
- New Rule: One Account Per Client
Along with the physical consolidation of the boutiques comes the technological consolidation of client information, including the accounts each client uses to beaux purchases. Whereas previously, a client could have her own purchasing account plus another account with her spouse, now that client must choose which account to keep to beaux all of her future purchases under.
- New Rule: Household/Joint Accounts Will Be Treated Differently
Further, should that client choose to keep the household/joint account (instead of her own personal one) for her future purchases, those purchases will be limited to in-store purchases only, and quota bags will not be offered.
- New Rule: One Shipping Address Per Client
Each purchasing account can only have one mailing address, and any purchases that need to be shipped will only be shipped to that one address listed in the account profile.
Winter Is (Still!) Coming
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Hermès clearly intends to firmly implement the two-quota-bags-per-year rule for the majority of its clients. This would be the ultimate realization of near-complete corporate ownership and technological consolidation.
sac cabas hermes en plastique tricolore bleu orange et vert et soie, Sac à main Hermes Plume en veau doblis marron. Hermès is still selling more than the Quota amount regularly (one acquaintance recently returned from a month-long multinational trip with not one but TWO 20cm Birkins). At best, this is still in the Your Mileage May Vary zone and not a firmly applied rule. As with everything Hermès, however, stay tuned.
- New Rule: Special Orders Will Be Offered To New Clients
This is a rule I have heard about from multiple sources, but I can personally attest to the flexibility factor on this one.
Orologio Hermes Harnais in acciaio Ref Special Orders (SOs), my SA told me in early 2021 that while he and Hermès were grateful for my continued relationship, they wanted to be able to offer one of these limited slots to a client who hadn’t previously been given the opportunity to place their own SO.

This was fine with me until that fall, when the new SO list of colors was released, and for the first time, Rose Sakura was an option. I notified my beloved SA, who declared it a Special Order Emergency and told me I must come in and place my Rose Sakura SO immediately, which I did.
That was that. My Rose Sakura SO was delivered in December 2022, and in October 2023, I was offered another SO slot. This leads me to conclude that this is not new, and it may not be so much of a rule as a guideline, which may be implemented at some point in the SA-Client relationship.
Bag production still does not meet demand, and SO slots are even harder to come by, so it’s not surprising that Hermès would want, when practicable, to offer the opportunity to newer clients.
Not a Rule
There have been a few changes that aren’t quite rules but rather practical, management-driven processes that streamline the client experience and benefit everyone—the client, the Sales Associate, and the corporate entity.
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I have overheard quite a bit of chatter lately about the use of reserve lists for anything that is not currently in stock. This is as old and as typically Hermès as Hermès gets. I recall many years ago, I desperately wanted a Collier de Chien bracelet in Noir with Gold Hardware; the then-new Madison Avenue boutique had several CDCs in various fun colors like Vert Anis and Bordeaux, but not Noir, so I was put on a list for one.
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Reserve lists are not a bad idea but are rather a practical solution to a perpetual problem: otherwise, you will need to either be very lucky and happen to be at the boutique when your desired item is in stock, or you will have to constantly pester your SA to check.
While not new, reserve lists may now be more widely utilized due to the growth of Hermès’ client base and the greater visibility of current-season offerings.
As for me, the only difference I have noticed with a more recent reserve list experience is that it is being utilized more effectively: in October, I was interested in the new Jaimy Boots, but the boutique did not have my size, so my SA added me to the list; in early December, I was able to purchase them, and there was neither a required deposit nor a required purchase of the reserved item.
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As a general matter, an appointment at Hermès is not required. You can walk right into nearly any Hermès boutique, anywhere in the world, without an appointment; you will be assigned a Sales Associate, and you can beaux a purchase.

That said, many clients do beaux appointments, as a matter of both courtesy and practicality. When you beaux an appointment, you are given a time slot (usually an hour), and you will have your SA’s attention and assistance for the length of that time slot. If you walk in without an appointment, your SA may not be available to work with you.
Further, when you book an appointment you can let your SA know exactly what you are interested in seeing (and perhaps purchasing); this will help your SA set their own expectations about your time together and this encourages your SA to ensure that those items will be available for you.
Are there any other new rules you have been hearing about lately? Please add them in the comments below!
You know- rather than seeing this as a frustrating obstacle, it should be viewed as a testament to the brand’s legacy, craftsmanship, and exclusivity.
Hermès has never been about instant gratification or mass accessibility. It has always been a maison that values heritage, artisanship, and patience- qualities that align with the idea of the ultimate “holy grail” bag.
In today’s fast-moving, trend-driven market, most brands chase fleeting relevancy by flooding the market with product. Hermès, however, resists this. Unlike other luxury houses that release bags seasonally or as part of a marketing gimmick, Hermès maintains a slow, deliberate production process, ensuring that each piece remains special. True exclusivity cannot be manufactured overnight. It must be earned, cultivated, and preserved.
Luxury IS about rarity, artistry, and the thrill of the chase, and brand does it better. The Birkin and Kelly remain the ultimate grail bags precisely because they are not easy to obtain- in an era where everything is instant, that beauxs them even more valuable. ✨️👜✨️
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The issue today is that so many bags are bought by resellers. Hermes has no way of controlling this. And the resellers sell the bags with high premium to consumers who do not mind paying some extra and who definitely do not have patience. The ”holy grail” bags are everywhere – and every single small influencer owns one. It think Hermes is diluting their brand in this way.
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I love Hermes bags because the designs stand the test of time and they come in so many wonderful colors, but I have to say, they have taken all the fun out of shopping with them over the years. I used to be able to go in and get bag but over time it became harder and harder. I moved across country and needed to get a new SA, I haven’t bought anything since. They spoke to me about the store manager needing to get to know me etc. and it is such an ordeal that it just wasn’t fun to shop there anymore. Isn’t shopping supposed to be fun?
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No matter how many “rules” seem to be in place, they are unable to control the number of resellers… too many SAs take a back door “tip.” Corruption at Hermes is pervasive and wide spread.
THIS! I am moving away from Hermes because of resellers. People can get hot all they want about fakes (and I don’t like they either) – but the way I can go on literally any resale site – from the smallest most boutique consignment operation to the big boys like Ebay and Fashionphile and scroll through page after page after page of Birkins and Kellys – why am I working so hard to buy these? I’m done competing with people who are obviously looking to flip these (as ref by the robust availability of these bags literally everywhere). Resale spaces will reach peak saturation at some point – and it will bring the value of the bag down with it (may not crater it or anything – but I do believe it will come to regularly at and below retail). Hermes should do better to not sell to resellers – but I also suspect they profit on both ends, but that’s just my conspiracy theory.
And they have the audacity to go all pearl-clutchy when all the resellers pop up and beaux more money off their products than they do. There should be rules about being (or pretending to be) that stupid.
Rules for spending my money by someone other than my husband or me.
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Ridiculous! If you want to play this games so you can have the honor of spending thousands on a bag go ahead. Nope!
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Hermes is a declasee brand in my opinion- poor customer service, lack of innovation, inflated pricing and every influencer and D grade celebrity has their bag – why PB gives them so many posts is beyond my understanding – rather cover some new and exciting global luxury brands – why this mess?
You sounds ever so slightly bitter.
Thanksgiving weekend 2023 I went to the flagship main store in Paris, walked in with no appointment, they were very nice to me, spent an hour with my SA, he showed me many options and I bought a men’s Kelly black briefcase with black hardware, only 2 made of this unique case. Mine was wrapped up and never opened up, I got it! Last Thanksgiving weekend I was at this store near Le Bon Marche, lots of store staff eager to help me and they had many options in stock. All of these issues I read, I have not experienced, just the opposite – friendly helpful associates and many options to purchase.
My neighborhood store is Wall Street. Merci…
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lol this is just more repackaging of gossip and not “rules”. Hilariously, there are actually new rules this year, none of which you mentioned. Another waste of time post.
This is the most brazen, shameless marketing strategy one could ever imagine. Exploit the pit of customers’ egos until it becomes bottomless.
I applause and cry at the same time (tears of joy or sadness, I myself don’t know).
They are putting so much effort into being ridiculous. If they have so much excess energy to do this, they need to get another hobby.
But this explains why I’ve had such positive experiences with the Detroit boutique and horrible experiences with the Madison Avenue location. I’m sad to hear the Detroit location will be going downhill.
I have never seen so many Hermès bags everywhere as now! And the women are younger and younger. That many Hermès bags around only means that there are many ways to aquire them than at an Hermès store.
Looks like Hermès either has to do a major restriction grip or just fold their cards and let the demand decide the market.
All the enjoyment has been taken out of owning one of these. Mine has not been out of the box since I bought it! I feel people would just look at me and think, what an idiot jumping through all these hoops to own one, despite the fact I just walked into my local concession store, asked and got one!
Why do you care what others think if you supposedly bought the bag for yourself to enjoy…?
I lost my hope with Hermes. I live in Europe. In my hometown (not in France) we have a local Hermes store. I’ve done my regular purchases there: belts, shoes etc. I was able to put myself on a quota bag waiting list in August 2023. And nothing yet. It is February 2025!
I would like to buy my first Kelly but do not really believe in getting it. I have also signed myself for the leather appointment almost very Friday as I live 2 hours away from Paris. No luck there either – maybe because I try to apply for the appointment outside France.
So my question is: how long did you have to wait for your first quota bag? I mean during the last few years not in the ”good old times”.
Is it the Luxembourg city shop ?
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Yes I did. I went to the store and they said it is still valid. Do not really know what else can I do… except buy more pieces from their store.
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Hermes sold too many mini kellys and allowed too many at special order. Now everyone has one and they need to pull back to beaux them more exclusive. My sa in the US said that some stores are not allowed to offer mini kelly on the special order menu anymore.
thank you
How hard is it to get to buy a Herbag (I‘m in Germany)?
Pretty easy to buy. But beware, they are widely unpractical.
I purchased one online. Though a chance-buy, it’s not very uncommon. My friend was able to get one as well. Another bag, a Medor, however, was frustrating. It appears my payment went through, even got the order confirmation. Yet, after about 10 minutes, the order was cancelled by Hermès. I even called my credit card company, they said everything went fine but the vendor canceled it. This happened twice, different days. And now I don’t even check their websites all that often anymore. Too tiring.
I would love to have a Birkin. But these rules and quota to be “worthy” of a purse is not worth it to me. Playing this game rubs me the wrong way. And apparently not everything in the store counts towards a Birkin, seems like everything I like doesn’t count towards the bag. I don’t mind paying a pretty penny on a purse but what I want in a Birkin just a basic black grain leather with silver hardware; I have a hard time seeing the $15k+ value (I understand with more premium colors and materials).
But for my first Birkin I want a simple black (it’s my favorite color).
Just visited the Paris store yesterday. They confirmed that the application for the leather appointment lottery may only be approved if you apply while connected to Wi-Fi in France. But this you might already know. I have applied multiple times, as I live in a neighboring country, but now I’ve learned it was in vain.
This means you first need to travel to France and then submit your application. Basically, the longer you stay, the better your chances, as you can apply every day. Still, as we know, the chances are low, but this is the only way to try.
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I tired of the Hermes “rules” a few years ago. As a 40+ year customer, I find them disrespectful and insulting to the loyalty shown to them across all departments.