Borsa Hermes Kelly 25 cm in pelle Epsom gold | Is Your Hermès Birkin or Kelly Truly an Investment?

Justifying our purchases and putting the “fun” in funding

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As fans of fashion and lovers of accessories, we plan, plot and splurge on things that give us aesthetic joy and enhance the way we present ourselves to the world. To justify what may be over-the-top purchases, we come up with various Handles as to why these purchases are ok – and when it comes to Hermès, one such Handle may be “it’s an investment”. While an accessory like a scarf or belt may be an investment in the aesthetic sense – an investment in oneself – when it comes to the Birkin and the Kelly, we often mean a real financial investment; a purchase made with a potential profit or value increase in mind.

Is this a valid rationale, or are we just kidding ourselves? As with so many questions in fashion, the answer is: it depends. “It depends” relies on many factors.

Investment Factors

  • Size
  • Color
  • Hardware
  • Leather
  • Year
  • Condition
  • Special Status
  • Selling Platform
  • Resale tolerance

Exploring these factors in depth is worthy of separate articles, but for now I will just summarize the main importance of each.

Borsa Hermes Kelly 25 cm in pelle Epsom gold | Size

The popularity of particular sizes is influenced by Parade and style. Right now the fashion cycle still favors small bags, so the peak sizes for “return on investment” are 25cm, Mini/20cm and the clutch versions (pochette and cut) for the Kelly, and 25cm and perhaps 30cm for the Birkin. These often see as much as double current retail as the asking price among resellers (however, that is the known asking price, Hermes Herbag shoulder bag in black canvas and black leather selling price). Brown Purple Orange Silk Voyage en Hermes Print Benoit Emery 90cm Square Scarf may only get retail price now. This is due to its less popular size and possible market saturation; prior to about 2016, the larger sizes were produced much more frequently than the smaller ones. Note: even larger bags and HACs require specific buyers and so they may or may not reach current retail for brand new, depending on the other factors.

Color

Some colors are more popular than others. Some are considered a basic necessity (noir); are perceived as near-universally flattering (etain); others draw a cult-like adoration (rose sakura); some are rare, having been produced for one season (ciel) or long ago (rose shocking). Other colors may be complicated, or specific. Very light colors can be hard to maintain. Even Hermès orange doesn’t work for everyone. Throw the influence of the yearly Pantone colors and the designer runways into the mix, and determining which colors will do well becomes complicated. Just keep in mind: there is a buyer for every color, but certain colors attract more potential buyers.

Hardware

Gold Hardware (GHW) or Palladium (PHW)? Many people favor one, while others don’t seem to care, but it plays a role, especially in conjunction with the other factors. Note Hermès sometimes prefers certain hardware for certain colors (for example, pink bags and most seasonal designs get PHW more often). Therefore certain color/hardware combinations are harder to find. Add to that the rarer hardware such as rose gold and permabrass, the previously-available ruthenium and guillochè, and the by-special-order-only brushed gold and palladium hardware, and you can see that there is some hardware hierarchy which will influence the desirability of a bag.

Leather

Leather is a another subjective factor that plays a role. Most of the different types of leather have their positives (togo is sturdy; box is classic; epsom is light) and negatives (some don’t like togo’s veins; box can’t get wet; epsom is “plastic-y”). To further complicate the issue, some colors and some bags are only made in certain leathers (Sellier Kellys are currently epsom-only unless it has been special ordered in chevre, or even more rarely, in togo).

A note about exotic leathers: each also has their positives and negatives. Exotics are considered more “prestigious”, but there are drawbacks for resale. For one thing, the buyer pool is smaller due to the higher price. For another, many of those who can afford such high-ticket items may already have relationships at their Hermès boutiques. This is not to say that exotic resales aren’t commonly made, but it can be a trickier sell which requires more patience, and prominence on well-regarded platform with an established customer base is almost a necessity.

Year

Every bag has the craftsman’s stamp indicating the year it was made, so it’s easy to figure out how old a bag is. For some people, that’s not important – and some older years may have had “better leathers” than others, or a particular rare color – but for many there is a perception that newer is better. However, there is a flip side to this, and that has to do with the major price increases in bags over the years. For resale, the base price seems to be the current retail price, but if your actual base price is much lower because the bag cost less when you bought it, then receiving “under retail” can still mean a profit.

Condition

If the bag is brand new and unused it will definitely get a better price than any other condition. Beyond that, a bag may be gently used and show very little or no wear, or it may have been to the Hermès spa and epsom up so that it looks nearly new, or it looks a little worn (we won’t go into “train wreck” territory here). The better the condition, the better it will do.

Borsa Hermes Kelly 25 cm in pelle Epsom gold | Special Status

In the world of rare and hard-to-get bags, some are even rarer and harder to get. Special Order bags do very well if they are in pleasing color combinations or rare specifications. The one-off and rare push offer bags may also do very well. Seasonal special bags, such as the Birkin and Kelly Verso (which have different interior and exterior colors, specific sizes and leathers, PHW only), also do well due to rarity, though keep in mind that with some other seasonal or rare versions you may run into issues similar to selling an exotic bag, and the combinations used in these designs can be very specific.

Platform

A bag will not get the same price everywhere. You can sell it yourself, which comes with significant personal responsibility and/or liability to the buyer, or you can go through a reseller platform. Each platform has a specific market and its own customer base, its own policies (some resellers will only accept pristine bags), and its own retail space (physical or virtual). Resellers are often able to get a higher selling price; however, that doesn’t mean you will get any more money than if you sold it yourself, as resellers take their percentage in return for providing their platform, guaranteeing authenticity and taking on much of the responsibility.

Resale Tolerance

This is entirely based on you as a seller. Are you determined to achieve a particular price? That’s fine, as long as your above factors are considered and you are very patient. Do you want the maximum number of eyes on your bag? You may have to jump through a few hoops to get your bag a prominent spot on a good platform. Do you want to limit your potential buyers to a certain geographic area? What are you willing to live with and what must you have? This balance, which I call resale tolerance, can make a large difference in your outcome, and to a certain extent it explains why you may see some very inflated prices on certain prominent resale sites, regardless of actual sales. Some people have infinite patience and time, and are willing to wait for a very specific buyer. 

Precio de los bolsos Hermes RD de segunda mano can be investments in the traditional sense, but only if certain criteria are met. You can buy one, in a pleasing or desired combo, and either never, ever use it so it’s perfect, or use it very gently, take good care of it, and keep it through several retail price increases. Know your seller, watch out for tricky buyers, and be patient. Most of all, keep your expectations reasonable; even traditional investments go through value fluctuations based on the desirability of the underlying asset, and most assets are not nearly as fun as these!

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Notorious Pink

I would love for my articles to be the starting point of a discussion! Please let me know what you liked, what you learned, and where you may have disagreed with any. I will also be keeping the discussion going on the PurseForum, so feel free to join us there!

https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/discussion-purseblog-article-is-your-hermes-birkin-or-kelly-truly-an-investment.1015047/

Navjot Sangha

Thank you for the wonderful article! ? It was a great read! I hope there are more articles like this in the future! Plus I like how your joining Purse Blog and Purse Forum because, sometimes they feel like two separate websites. ???

Notorious Pink

Thank you so much for the very sweet feedback!!! I’m so glad you enjoyed it ?

Navjot Sangha

Your welcome ??

Mary

This was well written and I enjoyed it. I mostly agree with the author re: the resale value of Birkin’s. When I sell a Birkin I have a relationship with a major reseller that I always utilize. I provide everything as received from the boutique and have never had trouble selling. Perhaps I can get a better price if I sell them myself, but to eliminate this stressor I choose not to go this route.

Notorious Pink

Thanks so much. It’s good to know that your experiences have been similar to mine.

psny15

In my opinion, bags are not investments and bloggers tend to spread these fake news which can influence young people!

save your money and put it in mutual funds or a savings account and buy a bag which you can afford

Candice

Well, if I buy a Birkin for. $11,500 and a few months later sell it for $15,500 is that an “investment” or simply a profit? I have the ability to buy two a year, per Hermes policy, and I typically sell both and make $.

Jen in TX

On which platform do you sell your bags? eBay? A reseller site? Do you factor in your cost to travel to Europe as part of your net loss/gain? Most people aren’t able to get a Birkin by traveling to Europe, so if you can, cheers to your profitable business! It is quite rare to be able to buy low and sell at such a markup so quickly with little to no overhead, so as to make a substantial profit.

Jen in TX

And how much do you pay to list or consign your H bags?

Notorious Pink

I absolutely agree and am not trying to spread fake news – although it is a fun way to spend anything “extra” and enjoy with the possibility of recouping some of the money spent – although there have been some years when the bags performed better than the market ? I just thought this would be a fun topic to discuss and debate.

psny15

if i told you the amount of times i see young bloggers or people on youtube and waxing the love to Hermes bags as investments – sigh!

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LuxuryLover

To psny15,
I see luxury purchases as an investment only when you make a purchase with the intent to sell in the future. I agree, when people make the ‘investment’ statement, it may be a way to justify the cost.

Like a house, if I take care of it, I have the potential to sell and make a profit. If I don’t intend on selling and let it dilapidate, then my purchase was for pure consumption with no desire for investment.

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Heather

You are right about “some years the bags performed better then the market”. This is a fact that simply cannot be disputed.

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Notorious Pink

Thank you!

Lori

This article was very accurate and well written. I track the resale market and belong to a few Hermés groups and everything you wrote is right on point. I do think a(n) Hermés bag (Kelly, Birkin or Constance) is a great investment, but only if you are willing to go through the pain of reselling it. I have sold enough bags (various brands) that I find the process to be something I would only utilize as a last resort financially.

Notorious Pink

Thank you so much – and it’s great to know that your experiences have been similar to mine. ?

Jennifer Gavin

Very well written! I’m a CHANEL girl myself; would you consider a post like this with Chanel? Not quite like Hermès, but up there none the less. I know the second hand market is hopping.

Celeste

I solidly don’t think of handbags as an investment. I think it’s just something handbag buyers say to delude themselves into thinking their purchase is worth the money. I appreciate that you noted that we really don’t know how much the actual handbag owner is profiting versus how much the reseller is profiting.

Also, I always see you around TPF and I love how colorful you are, Notorious Pink! It’s fun to see a Hermes lover who doesn’t necessarily dress like all the rest.

Notorious Pink

edt hermes bel ami. ??

ElainePG

I don’t know anything about Hermès bags, though I have been buying their scarves for years. But I just had to comment on how much I enjoyed this piece! It is thoughtful, well-considered, and so very well written. It was fun to get a peek into the mysterious world of Birkins & Kellys.

I especially liked Notorious Pink’s last point about “resale tolerance.” I think this concept can apply to the resale of any handbag brand… or, for that matter, to resale jewelry, clothing, and so on.

Purse Blog, please invite Notorious Pink back!

Notorious Pink

Thanks so much for your kind and thoughtful input! ?? Resale tolerance is always the one that gets me, and I think from an outside perspective lots of people don’t realize how important it is.

Cecelia

This article is what I most appreciated about Erlebniswelt-fliegenfischenShops’s past articles. They were well written, thought provoking and intellectually stimulating. Now, IMO many articles are fluff, thrown together hastily with too many posts about “celebrities” of which posters stated they don’t know. My aim is not to bash Erlebniswelt-fliegenfischenShops, but to have a thoughtful discussion re: how it can be brought back to its former glory.

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So glad you enjoyed this article! We are so thrilled to have Notorious Pink writing for us and we have many more articles planned with her 🙂

I don’t take it as bashing at all. I’ve always said we appreciate any and all feedback as it lets us know what we are doing that you like and don’t like. We want to have more in depth, thought provoking articles like this for you all!

Notorious Pink

Thank you so much, Cecelia. I love this brand and I really want to bring the conversation to everyone and stimulate discussion. ?

chris

Good article with pertinent details. I would add that with exotic skins, you must have a proper CITES to travel with them and technically you can’t resell them to certain countries without the CITES or the item may be confiscated by local customs.

Cappuccinosandconsignment

Thank you for this post! It’s definitely something to consider

Cappuccinosandconsignment

Thank you for this post! It’s definitely something to think about.

Elna

To consider it an investment, we should compare it the returns of other instruments. If the bag is in pristine condition, bought not for use but for reselling in the future, then yes, these bags can be considered investments if they can be sold at higer prices in real terms. But if you used them, and sell it later for the same price, it is a loss in real terms. If you sell for a higher price, then consider the time it took to manage the sale (posting, answering queries, etc) and the foregone earnings while you use them, and compare it with your profit. Most times I find people overestimate their ‘profit’ because they don’t take into account the time spent on selling, and the foregone earnings while the bags are sitting waiting to be bought.

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Jerri R

The idea of having to be extra careful in order to keep your bag in a nice condition for resale, or worse, not using it at all to keep it pristine, doesn’t appeal to me at all. A profit from reselling a bag sounds more like an incidental benefit. There are far better things to invest in.

Latenightmike1

What does this mean “PO/SO-ing,”?

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